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In light of criticism over “fake news” posts on social media, Google, Facebook and Twitter announced earlier this month that they will start mark content with “trust indicators” to help users become better informed about the reliability of news feed posts. The Trust Project, which is behind the indicators, came out of Santa Clara University’s Markkula Center for Applied Ethics. It’s a non-partisan effort to enhance transparency and media literacy in the era of “fake news.” News outlets including Mic, The Economist and The Globe and Mail are partnering with The Trust Project to launch trust indicators on their content. There are eight guidelines that the project is using to peg a reliable article including author expertise, news outlet standards (who funds them), citations and references and reporting methods. To become a media partner of the project, news outlets must use at least three of the eight guidelines. Facebook test launched a Trust Indicator icon earlier this month, which comes in the form of an icon on the bottom right of articles in its news feed. But will the public catch on to “trust indicators”? And what responsibility do social media platforms have in pegging real and “fake” news.
Guests: Cory Haik, publisher of Mic, a news and media company and launch partner of The Trust Project; Haik runs the editorial and product and engineering team, and manages Mic’s content; she tweets @coryhaik Mike Ananny, communication and journalism assistant professor at USC where his research focus includes new media technologies, digital journalism and press ethics; he tweets @ananny
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CandyPerfumeGirl • 25 days ago
And then what someone said about people being able to "flag" news they think is fake. That basically just invites people to flag everything they dont agree with as fake. Good grief. it will be like the Gestapo. Maybe we can create a hotline too where people can call in whom they believe to be inauthentic? • Share ›
CandyPerfumeGirl • a month ago
In a free society with free speech you cannot and should not prevent the flow of information. I can see attempts like this quickly leading to the creation of The Ministry For Truth, straight from 1984 or V for Vendetta or something. And we never wanna go there because remember Trump himself considers anything that doesnt agree with him fake news and it just takes one misguided person to decide that criticism of people on power is slander and needs to be outlawed. The solution to bad speech should NOT be restricting free speech, but attempts at better speech. We cannot and should not control information, whether it comes from Russia or Germany or the heartland. In this day and age, it is almost impossible and frankly, looking at some of the alleged Russian troll farm posts - they were no different than what people are fed by NBC or Fox News. Bigots and haters, also known as Trump supporters, will believe what they wanna believe. They and our fascist-in-chief are experts at denial, lies and gaslighting. It is not Facekbook or Google's job to censor information or filter it in any shape. I dont need THEM to fact check and source check for me. In fact, I find the very idea scary and terrifying. A civilized society where its people have a basic level of education should be able to do the thinking on their own without needing Big Brother type agencies and entities to do the work for them. There is just a minimum level of competence and reading comprehension one should expect out of the citizens of this country. The idea of having it pre chewed for us is just scary.. • Share ›
Jackie Potts • a month ago
Hi, The presidential election showed us that many average Americans can't tell the difference between Opinion / Talk Programs and News. For instance, the Fox News Channel is really an opinion-based network. So is MSNBC news. Same with Breitbart etc. Their hosts are delivering spins on current events even as they present themselves as unbiased news anchors. So viewers are often totally hoodwinked by these opinion networks that tell them Don't Trust the Mainstream Media into thinking that these reports are factual. Genuine journalists, which is most of the Mainstream Media, are trained to “report the facts” and not insert personal opinion or bias. I was one for 10+ years, so I have some experience in this area. I think the Trust Project has good intentions with its sorting criteria, but it really needs to add a stipulation that stories be identified as Opinion pieces or straight News stories. That would be a good start. Otherwise, the same crackpots and trolls with agendas who are producing these biased videos and blog posts and articles to promote their own views will continue to skirt saying who they really are and deceive unwitting people. • Share ›
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Jackie Potts • a month ago
LOL .... Jackie - what a crock ! the ONLY morons who were FOOLED, were the L#bturd Intellectuals who believed the MORONS in the MSM Media News rooms ... ( ABC. CBS, NBC. MS-NBC & CNN ) how Trump is an "idiot" and kept repeating the "he will not be a President"; and St. Hillary just needs to come to the "coronation" :-) - and those Journalistic Dweebs were then helplessly "crying" on the Election Night ... like a little girls ! :-) The normal Americans, especially in the swing states, knew that they were fed up with the Washington Elites, and they sure didn't trust Hillary .... AS SIMPLE AS THAT ! • Share ›
Silas • a month ago
Just pick a few (handful of) reputable organizations to follow in detail maybe..? No need to let yourself be overwhelmed. And always think critically! • Share ›
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Silas • a month ago
Silas, and preferably NOT an American News Networks ... ( the Foreign Bureaus of the Foreign Networks still have a professional journalists ... so the real news can be obtained - not the Echo-Chamber idiocy ! ) • Share ›
jskdn • a month ago
“Diverse Voices: A newsroom’s efforts and commitment to bringing in diverse perspectives. Readers noticed when certain voices, ethnicities, or political persuasions were missing.” How that trust indicator is realized is a big deal. "Diversity" is often something meaning the opposite regarding political viewpoints. 1
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Bill in SGV • a month ago
We're at the point where we will believe what we agree with and dismiss what we disagree with as "fake news". The POTUS does this all the time and is encouraging this behavior. • Share ›
jskdn • a month ago
It’s not just false facts, it's the choice of which facts get presented and the importance assigned to the by the reporter. Alternative facts are a real thing. 1
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jskdn • a month ago
And which items get chosen for "factchecking." 1
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Tony Lima • a month ago
Snopes: revenue to finance the owner's hooker habit. Politifact: LOL. Selection bias in topics checked. WaPo: LOLOL Even if a statement is true, we'll label it false if we don't like it. Current "fact-check" operations are nothing more than editorializing in a flimsy disguise. Disagree with Larry: be cynical. Skepticism is not sufficient. 1
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Tony Lima • a month ago
The shared ideologies of so much of the news media is evident in their product. 1
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jskdn • 25 days ago
Not to mention, for well over a century they cite the "AP" (Associated Press), but the member of that association that provides the editorial piece pawned off as "news" is never cited. • Share ›
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jskdn • a month ago
Yep. • Share ›
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Tony Lima • a month ago
And that's really part of the answer: ideological diversity in news organizations creates some internal accountability. • Share ›
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jskdn • 25 days ago
Which can't happen in a organization owned and controlled by a handful of people that have an economic and political agenda. Thus the consumers must check competing sources themselves. • Share ›
Silas • a month ago
I'm for this idea. Don't really see any downsides. • Share ›
Pippi Detman • a month ago
I kept hoping that the news about Trump being elected was fake news. • Share ›
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Pippi Detman • a month ago
the BEST comment on this segment ...
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Jack in Zurich • a month ago
It's hard to assume the reader is smart enough to be skeptical when most can barely read, let alone interpret what they can read. 3
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EGW • a month ago
Larry, DO NOT read my comment on the air! You will get banned! • Share ›
jskdn • a month ago
A long time ago, a local reporter had a blog on his newspapers website. He actually interacted with those who commented on that blog and out of that did journalism to address the questions and issues they brought up. The newspaper let him go. • Share ›
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jskdn • 25 days ago
That is the way "big business" works, and the way ownership and control of media companies work.
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Jack in Zurich • a month ago
Once again for the dolts, dullards, dotards, dummies, and dimwits: Believe little of what you see, Less of what you hear, and none of what you read. ESPECIALLY ON THE INTERNET. This PSA has been brought to you by your future overlord who will be making changes when he comes to power. 1
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Jack in Zurich • a month ago
Jack that ( the dolts, dullards, dotards, dummies, and dimwits) pretty well covers 97 1/2% of the KPCC morons ...
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Jack in Zurich • a month ago
You still have my unwavering support.
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jskdn • a month ago
If there isn't a process that holds the journalism up to outside criticism, then people should be skeptical. I see little evidence that most journalists are interested in anything other than the peers, and often just their ideological peers. 1
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EGW • a month ago
Fake news that is made up out of thin air by pop-up-websites is a tiny portion of the fake news industry. Vast majority of fake news comes from MSM who run these untrue stories: 1) All things being equal, when employers pay workers more, more workers will get hired. (This concept violates basic economics-there is no way it could be true) 2) Mass shootings are a common way to die. (More people die from choking, falling down stairs, etc...) 3) War w N Korea is likely even though stock market is at all time highs. (If war was likely the DJIA would be down 30%) Etc, etc, etc... 2
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Jack in Zurich • a month ago
There's a much simpler way to determine untrustworthy news. If it comes from social media - it's fake. Duh. 1
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Jack in Zurich • 25 days ago
And if it comes from Twitter, it is "self promotion", and if it comes from youtube, it comes from people looking for free money and exposure. And if it comes from any of the 8 mega-media conglomerates (or public media), it is bought and paid for propaganda of the mega-wealthy, for their own economic agendas. The public can see through the lies, but they like the "entertainment" and "sensationalism" of the fake news sources like ABC, BBC, CBS, CNN, FOX, KPCC, NBC, NPR, RT, Voice of America,... The public doesn't care a bit about some arbitrary indicator, and though Wikipedia has citations for almost anything published as well as all prior versions available for anyone to see, very few people take the time to look at the citations, nor edit history. The American public is used to lies and indoctrination, and there is nothing anyone can do to change that.
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Jack in Zurich • a month ago
But they'll figure out a way around it. What about places like Breitbart, ALex Jones, etc? They have websites with false stuff on them. This can become a game of whack-a-mole.
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