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03-06-2014, 12:49 PM
#61
brian john Senior Member
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Originally Posted by macmikeman If anybody has to knock macmikeman down then show us what you have accomplished that outdoes what he has for the trade
Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gilbert's Corner VA Posts: 28,293 Rewards Points: 2,182
I'll repeat for those that missed it the first time. There are some people that give their heart and soul to issues, doesn't mean they can't have character flaws.
.... just pointing out that we all have flaws. __________________ Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now Last edited by brian john; 03-06-2014 at 07:30 PM.
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03-06-2014, 01:01 PM
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meadow Very Long Vacation Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: united states of america Posts: 11,719 Rewards Points: 5,262
Man I missed a good thread
03-06-2014, 03:24 PM
#63
chicken steve motherplucker
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Originally Posted by don_resqcapt19 Of course Eaton showed him what they wanted him to see.
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And most likely told him what he wanted to hear , like they told these guys Don ~CS~ __________________ Got a case o' dynamite ,I could hold out here all night
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03-06-2014, 03:31 PM
#64
10492 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 3,861
FWIW He came across as an arrogant guy who can do no wrong....and knows everything... I hate his voice..... Very successful businessman who surrounded himself with great people.... And seems to be living out his dream rather nicely....
03-06-2014, 03:43 PM
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meadow Very Long Vacation Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: united states of america Posts: 11,719 Rewards Points: 5,262
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Originally Posted by Dnkldorf FWIW He came across as an arrogant guy who can do no wrong....and knows everything... I hate his voice..... Very successful businessman who surrounded himself with great people.... And seems to be living out his dream rather nicely.... There is a difference between knowing a subject exceptionally well and being arrogant? How does he come across as arrogant anyways?
03-06-2014, 03:56 PM
#66
10492 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 3,861
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Originally Posted by meadow There is a difference between knowing a subject exceptionally well and being arrogant? How does he come across as arrogant anyways? Remember they are my opinions, and mine only. I have only met the man once, and that was the impression he left on me. But since you asked.......it was the way he looked you over, the movement in his eyes when he spoke, and that "smile" of his looks fake as chit....and the way he uses his hands constantly.... I am not saying he is a bad guy, just my thoughts on the guy. I have been known to read a person wrong from time to time, call it a built in defense mechanism, if you will.....
03-06-2014, 04:30 PM
#67
Michigan Master Senior Member
I've never attended a formal class or ordered any of Mike Holt's books (the books are expensive); but I enjoy reading all the articles he writes and love the illustrations, which are also available on his website. I've also attended a few of his webinars. In my opinion he's a good guy and VERY knowledgeable. In my area Chuck Cossin does a really great NEC exam prep course and I've also taken his code update class.
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Another person I've learned a lot from is Jim Phillips; I've attended classes he's taught and am a member of the arc flash forum.
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03-06-2014, 04:47 PM
#68
manchestersparky Professional Nit Picker
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Originally Posted by brian john There is money to be made. We have a local Inspector and NEC expert that is an excellent teacher and a nice guy to boot.
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For any VA, MD, DE, DC, PA, Eastern West VA guys( I have met all from these areas in his classes) I highly recommend Marty. I have no affiliation with him, but have respect for his knowledge and ability to get the subject matter across to the participants. http://www.mselectricaltraining.com Actually Marty is a Plans Examiner now. He is a great guy with lots of knowledge __________________ Anything Worth Doing .... Is Worth Doing Right
03-06-2014, 04:53 PM
#69
manchestersparky Professional Nit Picker
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Originally Posted by brian john I have done work for this Mike Holt http://www.holtelectrical.com
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The owner's name is Jim- does he have a son that works there? Ever meet Jim? There's a generator person if there ever was one ! __________________ Anything Worth Doing .... Is Worth Doing Right
03-06-2014, 05:47 PM
#70
MTW Senior Member
I've found his study materials and NEC resources to be very concise and informative, particularly the graphics he uses to illustrate various grounding and bonding issues.
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03-06-2014, 05:59 PM
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Sparky208 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Pa Posts: 225 Rewards Points: 152
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Originally Posted by rewire but the forum is very well run trolls die a quick death. Quote:
Originally Posted by Going_Commando Soo that's why you almost never get to post over there. It all makes sense now. You took the words out mouth. Laughing: Last edited by Sparky208; 03-06-2014 at 06:03 PM.
03-06-2014, 06:10 PM
#72
Maple_Syrup25 Senior Member
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Originally Posted by wendon You keep your Justine Beebler we'll keep our Mike Holt, Thank you. Sorry buddy, but I believe you guys lost the hockey game in Sochi and you guys got bieber!
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03-06-2014, 06:55 PM
#73
brian john Senior Member
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Originally Posted by manchestersparky Actually Marty is a Plans Examiner now. He is a great guy with lots of knowledge
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Yeah I knew that, I have dealt with him in my business (with him working for the county) and I have taken some of his courses. __________________ Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now
03-06-2014, 06:56 PM
#74
brian john Senior Member
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Originally Posted by manchestersparky The owner's name is Jim- does he have a son that works there? Ever meet Jim? There's a generator person if there ever was one !
Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gilbert's Corner VA Posts: 28,293 Rewards Points: 2,182
He has two sons that are running the business these days. One is Mike I have never dealt with his other son. I have done several jobs for them. __________________ Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now
03-06-2014, 07:16 PM
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hardworkingstiff Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 12,132 Rewards Points: 14,714
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Originally Posted by brian john ..... but it was the first one I joined and for really knowledgeable people (AND NO I AM NOT INCLUDING MYSELF IN THAT GROUP), ..... Don't sell yourself short, IMO, you are in that group.
Now, when it comes to non electrical stuff, .............. __________________ Three vastly different enemies, but enemies who shared one common trait. ALL of them stifle free speech. All of them bully, degrade and terrorize those who hold opposing views and who peacefully express them. All of them are intolerant and demand “loyalty” to the leader. Michael Sand 03-06-2014, 07:26 PM
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meadow Very Long Vacation Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: united states of america Posts: 11,719 Rewards Points: 5,262
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Originally Posted by Dnkldorf FWIW He came across as an arrogant guy who can do no wrong....and knows everything... I hate his voice..... Very successful businessman who surrounded himself with great people.... And seems to be living out his dream rather nicely.... Could be, you never know. I know one thing for sure not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but his work in teaching is the best. His CDs, graphics and the rest are the best bar none, none of the BS fluff that other teaching material is saturated in. I do know though he makes a lot of religious references to the point he sounds insane, (just my opinion), but the part that bugs me he tends to make off topic comments about women, such as a guy who "got owned by a female attorney" and such. Not sure why gender matters but I frequently see the theme of him being opinionated of woman in a male superior way.
However that aside his forum is gold, and his material should be the first go to for any apprentice. 03-06-2014, 07:32 PM
#77
brian john Senior Member
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Originally Posted by hardworkingstiff Don't sell yourself short, IMO, you are in that group.
Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gilbert's Corner VA Posts: 28,293 Rewards Points: 2,182
Now, when it comes to non electrical stuff, .............. I am by no means anywhere near to a code expert, Tried when I was younger but had other interest. __________________ Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now
03-06-2014, 07:50 PM
#78
piperunner ANY MONKEY CAN RUN!
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Originally Posted by CADPoint If memory serves me correct both him and Tom Henry brought Disney out of the ground in Orlando. ~ Details...
Well boys Tom Henry did work as a electrician during Walts begining construction back in 69 thur 71 But couldt bend pipe to save his life plus he screwed up more work out there then i can list in a post . Mike Holtz never saw the man on Disney or in construction as a electrician out at Disney . How do i know this i was there plus ive been on every large project since the begining . Tom books help me get my J Card and Masters passed first time around and hes been around longer the Mike Holts . As far as Mike the internet put him out there and blew away Toms fame over the years . But they both have it made just teaching the code and collecting the cash. Ya gotta give them that were still bending conduit . __________________ ONE TIME ONE LINE Last edited by piperunner; 03-06-2014 at 07:59 PM.
03-06-2014, 08:04 PM
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hardworkingstiff Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 12,132 Rewards Points: 14,714
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Originally Posted by brian john I am by no means anywhere near to a code expert, Tried when I was younger but had other interest. You may not be a code expert, but you do have expert knowledge in areas that a lot of us haven't played. __________________ Three vastly different enemies, but enemies who shared one common trait. ALL of them stifle free speech. All of them bully, degrade and terrorize those who hold opposing views and who peacefully express them. All of them are intolerant and demand “loyalty” to the leader. Michael Sand
03-06-2014, 08:19 PM
#80
wendon Electrical Contractor
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Originally Posted by Maple_Syrup25 Sorry buddy, but I believe you guys lost the hockey game in Sochi and you guys got bieber!
Go home Justine Keebler. Raise the IQ of both countries? __________________ Saving the world, one backstabbed receptacle at a time.
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